An odd subject for a Head-to-Head roadtest, as these are the two most similar bikes in any of the Harley ranges bar one. Putting the XLH883 vs the XLH883 Hugger would be plain foolish, and we have no intention of doing that, but despite all outward appearances, the two 'Kings provide the opportunity to raise the fuel injection debate. Laying out the pitch, there are three fundamental differences between the two models: bags, fuel system and price. Colour changes, seats, bars, whitewalls etc are worthy of mention, but the main battleground is on the former three.
I do like leather bags, and it would be churlish of me to rubbish them because they do look well, but they are less weatherproof, less secure and more fussy to get in and out of than their plastic alternatives. You want further explanation? Okay. Waterproof: leather is lovely when dry, but when wet can be a pain in the backside, doesn't hold out all the elements over a protracted period of time and takes longer to dry out than to get wet. Don't try to dry it quicker than is natural or else you'll embark on another set of problems. Slant-bags have a weather seal between bag and lid that is held in compression with the final closing operation. The material is waterproof and to dry them off when wet requires a dry cloth.
Fussy: even the quick release clips can be problematic after a cold wet journey, and if you want to quickly get all your now-damp stuff out of the bag you need one hand to hold the lid open while the other furtles around dragging out your bits and pieces. The lift and separate action of the slant-bag lids keep them tethered and out of the way: even offering a small platform on which to rest things you don't need right now while furtling deeper.
Fuel systems are more subjective than they have any right to be, too. There are those for whom a carb is the only sensible means of metering the petrol/air mix destined for the furnace. A massive array of aftermarket alternatives will get over the coughing and spluttering of the strangled standard fitting and everyone has the ability to unbolt the stocker and replace it with their preferred option. Only thing is, there are as many disparate views as to what the best carb is as there are carbs themselves. What people
fail to realise,a lot of the time, is that the characteristics of any
of these carburettors can be mapped into the chip of a fuel injection
system. The only serious downside of this is that there are few people
out there who actually know why a certain carb works well in terms of
its fuel delivery at all points in the rev range, and fewer still who
can map that to a chip that will accept such input. That will change over
time as injection system become a necessary evil to overcome the dictates
of international departments of transport. By the time you've finished
- with the will and the knowledge to do so - you can modify the advance
curve of the ignition system, and the fuel delivery map of an injection
system But that's beyond the present day isn't it? No. Not if you want to play. Injection systems have been used on cars for decades now and the knowledge is there: just needs the application of that knowledge. Bringing it back to basics, if you have a Stage One kit fitted to your stock Road King, it requires a little more work than the same on the FLHRCI because the fuel system mods are a matter of chipping the injection system with a known, improved fuel mapping rather than replacing the whole carb with a flatslide Mikuni. It doesn't mean it'll be cheaper, just simpler. Be aware though, that the carb-powered Stage One kit delivers more power, because the EFI version will still be obliged to conform to emission laws in an easily measured way whereas carbs are always open to that final tinkering. From stock,
however, the EFI motor provides instant-on power from cold but it requires
discipline and common sense to temper your enthusiasm for a quick getaway,
as it disguises the need to get some heat into the massive engine. The other last thing that has a lot of influence on traditionalists is that a carb can be looked at, at the side of the road, problems diagnosed and sometimes repaired. Even that a carb that is starting to fail will still get you home, albeit with a hot engine or a pall of smoke behind you. A fuel injection chip gives nothing away however closely you inspect it, and if the power to the chip is gone, then so is your motive force. It's the same argument that has lead a brother of a friend to switch the Harleys that he runs for tourists on the East Coast of Australia back to chain drive because he can better repair that than a belt in the outback. Taken to its logical conclusion, however, it is an argument that would have you binning the electronic ignition and retro-fitting a kickstart. And then there's price. A thousand quid separates the two bikes, and this is entirely fuel system and bags. The engine finish, which often plays a part, is identical and in the black and chrome finish but I can't help wondering what impact the plain finish of the Electra Glide Standard would have on price - and indeed desirability. Better still, with a plain alloy headlamp nacelle, or even a gloss black finished one sorry, I'm getting far too carried away. With the Electra Standard having been about £1500 less than the stock Road King when it was still available here, it is enticing to think what impression an £11k Road King would make, and it would surely be no more expensive to produce that the over-wired Electra. It would also make for a better base for building baggers, because for all its apparent simplicity, the Electra Glide Standard has issues: the tank is shared with the full dressers and therefore has no way of holding the big dial speedo, the headlamp nacelle costs a small fortune for something so simple, and the full wiring harness for the dresser is tucked away behind that simple shield on the fairing.
And then there is the rest. The colours, the seats, the handlebars and the whitewalls. Colours are very subjective, and both models share the same coachlines when going two-tone, which is not the best of Harley's lines to my mind. The variations, year-on-year, of the sixties Electras are more inspired, and more inspiring. Other than that, some schemes work for me while other don't and I could almost have my head swayed by the fact that the green of the FLHR here would put me off while the Red and Black of the Classic would draw me in. The fact that both schemes are available for both models, both this year and next, is of some significance insofar as the sheer elegance of the Classic owed much to my penchant for red, and the combination of the far less attractive green together with the leather bags would have swung my towards the FLHR in a much more convincing way. Seating was exemplary on both bikes, and the only difference I could detect was that the seat on the classic was always hotter when left in the sun. I came to believe - but have yet to seek confirmation - that the seat was supplemented by a captive layer of gel just beneath the surface, and that this gel aided long distance comfort, while retaining the absorbed heat from the sun. If that was the case, Harley-Davidson would be the last people I can think of to keep it quiet so I may well be wrong. That aside, I could detect no discernable difference in levels of comfort between the two, and only wish I had the better lines of either on my Electra Glide Standard because they blend much better with the lines of the mudguard and bags. The handlebars
are very strange because they appear to be exactly the same, but that
wouldn't explain why the ends of those fitted to the FLHR clouted my knee
every time I did a full-lock, feet-up manoeuvre while the Classic's did
not. And lastly there are the whitewalls. When editing All American Heroes, some years ago, I was given a tour of the Avon Tyres plant in Wiltshire. This served two purposes: one I got a pair of Elans on the Shovel in place of the AM21s and had a much better bike for it, and secondly I got the truth about Whitewalls according to Avon much of which I have forgotten. I remembered one specific detail when we picked up the Classic in the rain, and Rich remarked upon the strong desire of the tyres to let go on wet roundabouts. I was on the Softail Standard and had had no such difficulties, but resolved to regulate my speed from then on. A niggling thing at the back of my head started coming through, and it was related to the need to attach the white sidewalls to the black tyre, and it was a process related to galvanising. Worse than that, it was a process known to give the tyres a poorer grip. Avon had just introduced the Gangster Whites and former motorcycle Supremo, Alan, went to great lengths to explain how their process worked in a different way to provide better grip, and also to make the white walls themselves dirt-resistent. Yippee! Mentioning this on returning the Classic to Wayside, I was disappointed to hear that there have been fitting issues relating to Gangster Whites on Softail models and have resolved to bringing the matter up with Alan's successor, Leo at Avon, at the NEC this year: watch this space - or possible tech, or maybe we'll just link the two - for full details when we have them. Still, these tyres stepped out quite badly and it wasn't all down to diesel, otherwise the FXST would've suffered similarly. Unidentical twins. Carb versus injection. Plastic bags versus leather ones. And not a lot else. So how the hell have I managed to write 2,500 words on the differences. This, as much as anything else, is the reason why we do head-to-heads. Two engine types in four frame types should be easy to pick between, but when two bikes with so much in common can be so different, it picks huge holes in simple roadtests. And it gets better Rich will probably have a wholly different view again. No-one said it would be easy. Second
Opinion: Words: Rich If we can be honest with ourselves for a few minutes, if we really, really were massively persuaded by an ability to travel long distance in comfort and extraordinary luggage carrying practicality, we'd buy a 2nd hand Volvo estate wouldn't we. Well we would. What the motorcycle looks like, and how cool you look on it ARE factors we all take into account when choosing a motorcycle. If they weren't, nobody would buy the damn things would they. Well they wouldn't. Personally, that's why I don't particularly warm to the Electra Glide Ultra Classic (or any fully-loaded tourer for that matter). The Ultra Electra doesn't look dreadful - far from it - but neither does it cut it as a proper motorbike, not really. In my, albeit massively biased opinion, the Ultra Electra is more of a 2 wheeled automobile. A bloody good one, yeah, but a 2-wheeled car all the same. That's why
I like the Road Kings so much. When there's serious miles to do, either
one of these motorcycles is my ride of choice. But when push comes to shove, which one? Both of the 'Kings have distinct personalities: neither are rubbish and both have their unique good points. The straight Road King FLHR, firstly has the advantage of being cheaper by a whole £1000, at a paltry £12,495 (single colour). And secondly has the advantage (at least in my book) of coming equipped with that single carb. Not that I like the standard Harley-Davidson carb, far from it. I don't like all the spluttering and coughing for what seems like ages before it's warmed through and I'm still nervous about the carb's ability to operate efficiently in your slightly more extreme conditions: icing up is not funny, big or clever and always happens at exactly the wrong time! But there you go, the huge advantage of buying a Harley with a carb is that there is a huge selection of aftermarket alternatives you can plump for, hardly any of which will relieve you of anything like the extra £1000 you'd spend on the injected Classic. In fact you could probably fully professionally Stage One the FLHR, including the new 'pipes, new carb and proper re-jet for that 'extra' grand. Interesting huh! The trouble
is though, unlike Andy, I'm not too enamoured with the standard solid
panniers on the FLHR. Yeah they are lockable, and that is fairly good.
I'm no great
fan of white-wall tyres at the best of times, if you use them, the white
goes all dirty and I've oft suspected they don't handle anything like
as well as plain old black tyres. A suspicion re-enforced by Avon's new
white-wall tyre's ad campaign in which they claim to have improved the
white-walling process so that their tyres actually handle. Mmm, interesting
again. However, like or no, I'd obviously have to say I much prefer the
FLHR's discrete white near pinstripe over the blatant huge white rings
on the Classic. But neither would see replacement on any Road King I owned
unless I had no choice. If I had If there are any. The FLHRCI Road King Classic boasts, firstly and foremost, Harley's wonderfully efficient fuel injection. No doubt about it, the system is excellent - no coughing or farting, not even from cold and no extreme weather issues as far as I know. Okay there is the suspicion that injected motors lead a slightly rougher life, because the management system allows the bike to be ridden away without a hitch from cold, but nobody just jumps on a Harley, fires it up and rides away - do they? Unfortunately yes, some un-caring tossers do, don't they. We've all seen it. Harley shop staff should all be directed to only sell carbed models to tossers, that'd stop 'em - or even better, be legally entitled to shoot them as soon as they walk through the door. And still get their commission! I've ridden an injected 1340 Road King Classic over, what I believe to be the highest summer time pass in the Alps - the GrossGlockner pass in Austria. So high we were well into the snow-line by the time we reached the summit and the motorcycle never even missed a beat in that extremely rare and freezing air. Respect is due if only for that.
With both
Road King models available in the £200 pound cheaper plain colour
mode at £12,495 and £13,495 respectively, I still have to
say that, despite the fact it isn't a carbed model, and has stupid bloody
fat white-walls, given an open cheque book I'd plump for the FLHRCI Classic.
I could live with that less easy to up-grade fuel injection (boy, could
I!) and with its faultless comfort, those tyres would rapidly wear and
be replaced by something much more sensible. On a more restricted financial budget though, I would never throw the FLHR out of bed. The 'Standard' Road King is still a wonderfully well rounded motorcycle, and enough people are buying 'Kings and modifying them nowadays for there to be a good chance I could pick up those coveted semi-soft panniers and that wonderful seat the Classic boasts second-hand.
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